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A brief reply, “Bristol Red” is listed on the build sheet of my Fangio car, LB290/1/89 as the original colour. But, you have got me thinking, perhaps it was a one off for by the works ?
This car has not been repainted and yes it shows. I have looked under the bonnet hinges, inside the boot, and also the inside of the doors with door cards removed, all the same colour.
Amaranth red – I do agree this is a dark “metallic” pink and with significant age may even look slightly brownish underneath the top layer. Not sure about the “metallic addition”, but I think I understand what you mean. My second dhc is also painted this colour.
You mention colour matching, will your paint people be using a colorimeter to match paint fragments or just by eye ? If they do get a good match, several people would be interested in the data, myself included.
Tony hi
Will email you some pictures over.
Simon
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If there is surface rust on the off-side (drivers side) outer sill which you can see, then you can expect it to be pretty much rotten on the inner sill section as well – all pretty normal.On the near side, I imagine the tin-worm will have done extensive and costly damage.
Removing the rear seat squab might also give some nasty surprises, ditto with the upright rear seat section.
All this is repairable, but costly if you cannot do it yourself. I would recommend having an outside firm do this, so it is done correctly and more importantly safety is paramount. Additionally, the doors will not fit properly, and the shut-lines will all be wrong, unless of course you are comfortable with so much welding.
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Underneath the aluminium outer sill covering, which the 2 doors close over, is a wooden sill, made up of several pieces of wood. This is a very much standard feature on all the DB-Lagonda’s of the 1950’s, these have also normally rotted out. I have a pattern for this, and if I recall another forum user from Canada has uploaded excellent pictures with measurements for these as well.You might also want to check inside the rear wheel arches, inside the boot wood-work, under the dash etc. If you are feeling adventurous, there is buckets of wood in the rear compartment of the car as well.
The door capping’s and wood dash-board are the decorative stuff and the least of your problems on these cars; that is dare I say it more straightforward to sort out.
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Several people in the club have restored 2.6 litre cars in a far worst state than this car. So it is worth joining and asking for help if you intend to restore the car.In my opinion, these cars look very nice in a 2-tone colour scheme.
Brake hoses being missing – these can be replaced, I imagine all the wheel cylinders will be seized, and will need to be overhauled/replaced and master cylinder ditto.
All depends how much you can and want to do?
Best of luck
I disagree with you on the car colour, i.m.o., the colour of this car is most likely to be Bristol Red, another factory colour.
How do I know ? Well one of my dhc’s is painted this same colour. I also went up to see this car at H&H at the time, before my buying my second dhc, and it was an excellent match.
The colour Amaranth red was it seems a very popular colour for the 3.0 dhc, I have now seen 3 cars with this colour, including my other dhc. It is a darker colour than the car for sale in France, and to my eye, most unflattering to the body shape.
Sold for ?33,350 inc. premium, under estimate, so someone was brave !
Barry hi
Join the queue, I think Tony and I both have the same thoughts…
This is the danger of Bonham’s and many auctions when you go in with too low an estimate, and possibly no reserve…
Congratulations on your purchase !
Might I suggest an advert in the club monthly gazette for ?5, this should flush out a useable and restorable set of seats and also door cards. There really is a fair amount of stuff around.
Might I ask what the underside of the car is like ? The sills, door opening and under-body wood-work ?
Clive hi
Have you sold the car already, I noticed you have not replied to other DB-owners Peter and Tony ?
1. Biggest issue for you, is the car is in pieces, this is i.m.o. the worst way to sell a project car, unless it is a 1960’s Ferrari.
2. Is the engine still free now, can you turn over the crank by hand or with the aid of a big box spanner ?
3. Does the car come with a column shift or floor shift gearbox, this also makes a big difference, although with the correct top-plate you can convert a column shift to a floor shift.
4. Selling the car for parts will actually make you less than if you sell it as a full package. Although in this instance, the new owner of the blue 2.6 saloon, might be keen to buy your interior to make his a fully useable car ?
5. Prices for a car with full running engine and working box, are ca. ?8-8.5k. But this is ignoring the vast amount of wood-work on the 2.6 saloon and generally common appearance of tin-worm everywhere..
6. Prices for an engine/box – sorry I don’t encourage that unless it is going into another Lagonda, the cars need to be saved, might I suggest an advert in the club gazette ?
Email me, if you have questions, the club preference is where at all possible to save the car, or use this as a parts car to save another.
Kind regards
Simon
David – please pm me for details.
Tony hi
The 3.0 dhc does seem to be the very best of the bunch of the 1950’s Lagonda’s, a very fine car; seemingly edging towards the 100k mark. In contrast to the DB2 dhc’s imho, it is a better car, but I am biased of course.
I don’t think the French owners have done to much, even the same pretty rough interior, – I went up to see the car at H&H at the time.
Very nice engine work by Headshop – but they can charge.
Agree with you about the drop top, it would look better in cream or tan, black does not suit the car.
All the best
Simon
One wonders if an American dealer picked it up or not, would have been a canny buy, dare I say it a bargain, even with re-trim issue ?
I do struggle with a value for the 2.6 dhc’s, a real unknown, prices seem to be everywhere on the net from ?25k for a blue wreck to ?75k for a fine looking burgundy and silver car.
However, none of these are selling and real time auction performance is really an unknown.
A condition 1, 2.6 saloon sold last year at auction for ca. ?15k, so there is little incentive to restore those cars, which is also a great shame.
Looks to be another 1940’s design which dated very quickly, and they are so rare on the market, that most people would not know what they are.
In contrast the 3.0 litre cars seem to get snapped up very quickly and do not hang around for any length of time. Gorgeous, perhaps even drop-dead lines which still look timeless today.
Lagonda 2.6 models it seems are still under appreciated in the USA.
I would suggest that it might appear that the market has not got a clear idea of what the 2.6 models are worth. Several fine cars seem to hang around on the net with dealers for years ?
This car sold as follows, clearly with no reserve….
Sold for US$ 35,200 (?21,034) inc. premium
The car has a single bid at the ?8,500 asking price, so it may have sold.
More pictures of the V12.
I feel sorry for any future owner, the engine parts have clearly not been sorted, racked and bagged up with care.