Jacks, Tools & Starting Handles

Richard Branch

1 December 2015 at 21:50 #51574

Does anyone have any links to pictures showing where the jack, tools, wheel spinner hammer and starting handle would have been stored on the 16/80?

Although my car is an original T7 bodied tourer, it no longer has the various tools and attachments. I know the jack was clamped on the top of the bulkhead but where was the jack handle stowed? Where should the starting handle live, mine is in the boot. Clearly there must be a hide & copper mallet for the spinners so where should this be stored? I don?t have one, not that I?d use it. I prefer my nylon headed, shot filled hammer. Finally, I?ve read about the wonderful tool kit supplied with every Lagonda so of what tools did this comprise and where did it all live?

So many questions, sorry, and I guess the answer is to get along to the AGM but unfortunately I missed it this year and it?s a long time to wait to 2016 event!

Thanks, Rich…

Peter S30

3 December 2015 at 08:15 #51575

Dear Rich,

on my 2ltr LC I have mounted the starting handle as you see in the photos.

I bought a tiny (modern) hydraulic jack but did not mount it on the bulkhead (only put it there for the photo, looks to modern and I did not want to drill the holes needed for a safe mounting). I put it in the foot room of one of the back seats, together with a CO2 fire estinguisher (I have no boot on the T2 tourer). It would also fit under the bench of the back seat but there is already other stuff.

Attached are also photos for the storage of the mallet (drivers side) and tools cabinet (left side). The car has been totally restored but nicely it still carrys the original tools bag (unfortunately without tools) I am hesitating to fill it as the bag looks a bit fragile after more than 80 years.

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Colin M34

5 December 2015 at 12:00 #51580

Hi Richard,

Take a look at S30’s first picture. In the top right hand corner is the stay that links the scuttle to the radiator. This has two clips which hold the jack handle for the original Stadium jack. You can just see one of them in the picture.

M34

Richard Branch

23 December 2015 at 11:43 #51619

OK chaps, help me out here please! Somewhere in one of the 4 books I have bought on Lagonda there is a paragraph that describes the complete tool set provided with each car. I spent an hour or so last night thumbing through them to see if I could find the passage but short of re-reading each book it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. :

It was something along the lines of “and should the owner of a Lagonda break down on the road he’s well provided for because the factory supplies with each car; a 1/4” spanner, a 1/2 spanner, 2 x adjustable wrenches, 2 tyre levers etc. etc. The writer then goes on to say something like “it’s a good job the springs are solid because that little lot must add a few hundred weight to the car…”

I have:

Lagonda 2, 3 & 3-1/2 Litre in Detail, 1925-35 By Arnold Davey
Lagonda Book – A History Of The Marque By Davey And May
Lagonda Heritage (Osprey Classic Marques)
Lagonda An Illustrated History 1900-1950 Hardcover ? Geoffrey Seaton

Anyone remember reading that passage? :help:

23 December 2015 at 17:50 #51620

Richard, I think you will find a list of tools in the front of the Handbook, it is certainly in the M45 & LG45. I haven’t access to a 16/80 Handbook but someone here will no doubt help. A copy of the Handbook page:

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Richard Branch

23 December 2015 at 19:43 #51621

Thanks Stephen, I just had a quick look in my 16/80 handbook and couldn’t see anything but in any case your list looks like a good one. I’m sure I’ll stumble across the passage in my books at some point!

Colin M34

23 December 2015 at 19:44 #51622

Hi Stephen

This is amazing! I have never seen such a comprehensive list of tools. Looking at this page I can only conclude that this is for an LG45 and thus somewhat more comprehensive than what would have been supplied with the 16/80.

Hi Richard,

I have quite a good range of original tools that came with my 16/80 including the original stadium jack mounted on the bulkhead. These jacks do turn up at for a few pounds at car boot sales or a few tens of pounds at auto jumbles or a few hundreds of pounds at specialist auctions. Assuming you have a single 12v battery in the battery boxes under the back seat, this is a good place to keep a nice modern jack.

Colin

Richard Branch

23 December 2015 at 20:03 #51623

Hi Colin, sadly (or maybe fortunately) as Dennis fitted a brand new pair of traditional 6v batteries when I bought the car I don’t have that space 😉

bill

26 December 2015 at 15:03 #51626

Colin, I was interested in your reference to a “Stadium” jack. Was this correct for some Lagondas but not others ? I always thought that mid 1930s Lagondas (M45 and LG45 particularly) used a “Sky Hi” jack. This has a very distinctive base with supporting fins – a bit like the very tall trees in Australian (and other) forests. Any other information anyone please ?

Peter S30

15 January 2016 at 11:30 #51692

I was asked to make a photo of my tools cabinet pocket, here it is. The scale is in cm, total width about 73cm. Material is rather thin, a bit like oilcloth but it is different.

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Richard Branch

15 January 2016 at 23:42 #51694

That’s most helpful, thanks Peter.