• Stewart
    19 March 2013 at 16:21 #50079

    A low mileage V 12 coming up for auction in April

    Alistair Crawford
    10 April 2013 at 20:18 #50105

    and it is a beauty..

    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20926/lot/349/?page_anchor=MR1_page_lots%3D5%26r1%3D10%26m1%3D1

    room for all the family and the pleasure of choosing whether your chauffeur is enclosed or open to the elements.

    perhaps another big project for roadmap??

    Barry Brown
    10 April 2013 at 21:52 #50106

    The Bonhams description says windscreen washers are mandatory in the UK even on collector cars?

    SRD
    11 April 2013 at 07:27 #50107

    A Lagonda V12 limo. coming from long term ownership and recently recommissioned prior to sale.

    This car was offered around privately towards the end of last year through the club newsletter.

    A grand scale car, and I do have a few older pictures of this car if anyone is seriously interested.

    It will be interesting to note what this car makes at auction, given that limo’s have historically been the cheapest of the V12 cars.

    h14
    11 April 2013 at 10:22 #50108

    Can’t agree that it’s a beauty, to my mind the formal upper portion jars with the flowing line of the wings. Nevertheless an appealing car in nice condition.
    It is interesting that this low mileage 1941 registered car has a very much Sanction 1 engine. Hmmm.
    Not saying that means the mileage is false; my own V12 had covered 13000 miles by 1946, yet had had 3 different engines by that time…but they were all late numbers, and it seems unlikely Lagonda would sell a car as new with what would have recognisably been a 2 year old engine.
    Would be fascinating to see the early history of this car. First registered to Lagonda Motors? Perhaps their in house coachbuilding was busy with war work, almost definitely the case. Perhaps they had a buyer and the original sale fell through, explaining its travel around the dealers. Deansgate, Manchester is interesting. My own V12 belonged to Alan Good, and he sold it in 1946; via a firm in Deansgate.
    Another thought; without having checked the chassis number (and I wouldn’t put it past Lagonda altering that), I wonder if this is in reality an older car re-registered in 1941 to enhance its saleability?

    h14
    11 April 2013 at 17:47 #50109

    JPH575 is chassis 16046. 16060, for example, was first registered June 1939. It also has the earlier bumpers, with the earlier pattern mountings, where they emerge between the chrome trims instead of actually through them. So this is almost certainly a 1938 car re-registered in 1941.

    Stewart
    12 April 2013 at 13:59 #50110

    Hi Alistair

    I will have a go at it as its so unusual It might surprise everyone..

    Its ? whats the word I am looking for now “Big ” comes to mind and unusual and its a ” Grand car “

    This month added another Derby woodie, an 49 AC 2 litre sportscar and the 51 Pininfarina.

    Need to keep busy.

    Will be out in the Freestone and Webb next week.

    Attached files

    SRD
    12 April 2013 at 14:47 #50111

    For those with a grand garage space, the dimensions of this car are as follows:

    The car measures 214? x76? x 72? (max ht.) and weighs ca. 40 cwt.

    This means that the car measures just under 18 feet or 5.5 metres long.

    I have added a few more pictures of this car.

    Attached files

    Stewart
    12 April 2013 at 15:19 #50112

    Its more like a hearse than a wedding car and it has to be , shall we say the most unusual Thrupp and Maberley dseign. I do not believe the claimed mileage to be correct.

    h14
    12 April 2013 at 16:40 #50113

    Its saving grace is that it is a sedanca de ville, so you benefit from drophead motoring without the expense of buying a drophead. Many V12s seem to have covered low mileages. Lagonda Motors almost undoubtedly fitted a new speedo in 1941 (so much more honest than winding the mileometer back!), so the mileage could, just possibly, be correct, back to then at least.
    It’s a pretty formal car, hardly the daily commute…but of course it could have been, if the company ownership ran to a chauffeur.

    Stewart
    12 April 2013 at 18:58 #50114

    Decided its not for me

    Stewart
    29 April 2013 at 14:47 #50134

    ?32,200 for a huge car. Mileage ? I dont think the story was very watertight and it will take some rebuiilding. I doubt this car will be seen together again

    SRD
    29 April 2013 at 15:53 #50137

    The price of seemingly reasonable Lagonda’s does seem to be have taken something of a tumble at the moment, excluding the V12 limo.

    The LG6 limo at H&H sold for ?37k, and that was a good looking car

    The 2.6 saloon also at H&H in immaculate condition sold for ?15 k

    The well known Lagonda 16/80 sold at a pittance for ?40 k

    The LG45 Replica which was in excellent order, failed to sell

    The 2.0 litre low chassis failed to sell, bidding stopped at ?60 k, but that maybe due to a the wrong engine being present and an over-cooked estimate.

    A 2.0 litre low chassis at Bonham’s, albeit with a clutch problem sold for ?57 k, again Caveat Emptor with this one.

    Now this V12 limo, complete and in a much better state than the previous eBay V12 car, with a running engine at ?33 k. The vendors were offered much more at the end of last year. However, you look at it, this was a very cheap V12

    Two auctions, do not make a deflated bubble, it will be interesting to see what happens to prices over the next six months.

    Stewart
    29 April 2013 at 17:35 #50139

    You cannot judge prices on these cars I feel. Both the V 12’s were probably the least desirable ones there are followed by the LG 6 limo which was not any better.
    I also think the 2 litre did very well indeed considering the problems.

    Nicely done cars especially with a real history and not an auctioneers possible history are still commanding high prices.

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